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Hi Folks While going through the archived AmAstro messages, I noticed there was a question quite some time ago about the IAC PNe Catalog. If (IF) anyone is still curious about the publication ...589 images of 243 PNe. Typically, two to three high resolution images of each planetary at different wavelengths ([OIII],[NII] and H-Alpha) with a fine gallery of color photos closing the book. The color images are fascinating...how did Abell 14 get such a fantastic shape? What the heck happened to He2-428?! Brighter objects like M57or M27 have numerous images with a couple of deep photos that reveal the "woolly" outer shells... Unfortunately, this publication is now out of print according to Amazon.com. Dave Riddle |
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Have you or maybe Doug Snyder tried finding out if there were copies still available from the IAC folks directly? \Brian |
Sometime back, I contacted IAC for information regarding the catalog, but I don't believe I received a reply, as I am still without this catalog and I don't think they send me any word saying it was not available (from them). Their nebula section web site has a page of information on 'The IAC Morphological Catalog of Northern Galactic Planetary Nebulae' which can be accessed from: http://www.iac.es//nebu/nebula.html . There is no mention on the web site that it is not available (that I could find). But the last dated information I could find on this section of the site was 9/99. There is an email contact on the lead-in page for those interested in obtaining the catalog. (A. Guerrero mar@... ) . So I've sent off another inquiry and will see what happens. The main web site of IAC is http://www.iac.es and is split between Spanish and English sections. There are some nice images on the site, both astronomical and of the observatory sites there on the Canary Islands (Off the western coast of Morroco) Doug Palominas, Arizona www.blackskies.com (planetary nebulae) http://c3po.cochise.cc.az.us/astro (Huachuca Astronomy Club of South East Arizona) *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- There is no higher education than astronomy. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Skiff To: amastro@... Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [amastro] IAC Morphological Catalog of Galactic PNe Have you or maybe Doug Snyder tried finding out if there were copies still available from the IAC folks directly? \Brian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message is from the AmAstro mailing list. To post, send mail to amastro@.... To unsubscribe, send a blank e-mail to amastro-unsubscribe@.... |
I tried contacting them sometime ago as well and received no reply. Curious. Perhaps someone could query them in Spanish. At 22:14 18/05/2000 -0700, you wrote: Sometime back, I contacted IAC for information regarding the catalog, but I don't believe I received a reply, as I am still without this catalog and I don't think they send me any word saying it was not available (from them). Their nebula section web site has a page of information on 'The IAC Morphological Catalog of Northern Galactic Planetary Nebulae' which can be accessed from: http://www.iac.es//nebu/nebula.html . There is no mention on the web site that it is not available (that I could find). But the last dated information I could find on this section of the site was 9/99. There is an email contact on the lead-in page for those interested in obtaining the catalog. (A. Guerrero mar@... ) . So I've sent off another inquiry and will see what happens. The main web site of IAC is http://www.iac.es and is split between Spanish and English sections. There are some nice images on the site, both astronomical and of the observatory sites there on the Canary Islands (Off the western coast of Morroco) Doug Palominas, Arizona www.blackskies.com (planetary nebulae) http://c3po.cochise.cc.az.us/astro (Huachuca Astronomy Club of South East Arizona) *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- There is no higher education than astronomy. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Skiff To: amastro@... Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [amastro] IAC Morphological Catalog of Galactic PNe Have you or maybe Doug Snyder tried finding out if there were copies still available from the IAC folks directly? \Brian ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Brian I was hoping that Art Russell would chime in on the IAC PNe Atlas. He ordered the books last summer and did all the leg work for me. While on the matter of PNe books, the Strausborg-ESO set of books may still be available for the hard-core PNe enthusiast. Probably best ordered in the US through the International Book Import Service (IBIS) @ 1-800-277-4247. Don't do what Art and I did -- we ordered our copies directly from Germany. Order placed in May and (finally) received in September. Apparently, the guy in the mail room sat on the order for a few months until 'caught.' The fine folks at the ESO then used DHL to air ship the 'lost' order. Perhaps I should mention that the NASA Special Publications are also something of a nightmare to obtain. The lady (and I'm using the term loosely) I spoke with at the Government Printing Office couldn't have cared less about being helpful but did give me a phone number to try. After a dozen phone call to different agencies ("For information on Social Security checks, please press 1 .... for all other questions, please press 15 or hold ... the call will be answered in the order it was received. Approximate wait time is less than 10 minutes.") I finally connected with a lady in the Aeronautical and Technical Publications division that knew exactly what I was looking for. Anyway, the ISBN number for the ESO Atlas Part 1 (all the cool pictures) or the Part 2 (catalogue) is 3-923524-41-2. Dave Riddle |
While on the matter of PNe books, the Strausborg-ESO set of books may
still be available for the hard-core PNe enthusiast. Probably best ordered in
the US through the International Book Import Service (IBIS) @ 1-800-277-4247.
Yeah, or if you're really cheap (like me), you could just download the entire beast using CDS, Vizie-R, etc. and print it out ;-) I did this about 5 years ago, and I've never looked back. I even used it just two weeks ago at TSP (I got to knock out a few wonderful southern -- as in -51 degrees -- objects with Kent Wallace). Sure, it looks like crap, but there's enough hand-written notes on that copy to probably do a reasonable "field guide" to the ESO-CGPN '92! Now there's a project and a half, huh? Well, maybe if I win the lottery... BTW, has anyone heard further info regarding the new edition of the ESO-CGPN? It was certainly rumored some time ago that there was an updated version being worked on by Agnus Acker's group that was looking at a 1999/2000 release date. Supposedly, extensive deep surveys of the southern hemisphere had assisted in bringing the number of galactic PNe to well over 2000! Jay McNeil "Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds!!!" ~Albert Einstein |
Dave, et al., Sorry to have not chimed in. My doctoral studies have been getting in the way of late, leaving less time than I'd otherwise like for observing. In considering the IAC PN Atlas, I absolutely agree with Dave that it is a fine atlas and offers a unique resource for those interested in Planetary Nebulae (PN). Add to that the Strasbourg-ESO Catalogue of Galactic Planetary Nebulae Parts I and II (ISBN 3-923524-41-2) and you have a great foundation on the great majority of the currently recognized planetary nebulae. As Dave mentioned, it may be a difficult or frustrating effort to acquire these catalogs. However, I believe the effort is amply rewarded when you have these catalogs in hand. However, given the ready availability of email and the Internet, newer resources can supplement print media. The Strasbourg-ESO Catalogue of Galactic Planetary Nebulae data set is available as a set of data tables (try the ADC online) and provides essentially all of the same information in Part II of the paper version, although you will have to convert the information into a useable spreadsheet/database of some sort (but hey - its free and you can get it NOW). Unfortunately, the version I accessed has Epoch 1950 coordinates, but it does list 950 PN. Another consideration is the Jack Marling/Steve Gottlieb/Webb Society Planetary Nebula dataset (Epoch 2000 coordinates, 906 PN listed) most recently reflected in a dataset available a few years ago from the Webb Society (relying here on memory folks). The great thing about this dataset is that it reflects whether or not the authors had been able to observe a particular listed PN (in the paper version). This one feature makes the dataset invaluable. Whereas the ESO catalogue reflects almost every known PN, many PN are not visible; and while the Marling/Gottlieb/Webb PN dataset is not all inclusive, it does a good job of defining the rough envelope of observable PN. I've subsequently added my own twist by combining both the ESO catalogue and Marling/Gottlieb/Webb datasets into one relational database. This provides a wonderful cross-reference between datasets, and where there is an intersection, provides Epoch 2000 coordinates as well as other assorted data across both originating datasets. Paper or electronic? Both are valuable and will doubtlessly coexist for many years to come. Use which ever is most convenient for your way of observing and you'll find the available information may add to your enjoyment as you observe this class of object. Cheers, Art Russell mailto:artrussell@... http://education.gsu.edu/spehar "Chance favors only the prepared mind." -Louis Pasteur toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: DRiddle941@... [mailto:DRiddle941@...] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 7:18 PM To: amastro@... Subject: Re: [amastro] IAC Morphological Catalog of Galactic PNeBrian I was hoping that Art Russell would chime in on the IAC PNe Atlas. He ordered the books last summer and did all the leg work for me. While on the matter of PNe books, the Strausborg-ESO set of books may still be available for the hard-core PNe enthusiast. Probably best ordered in the US through the International Book Import Service (IBIS) @ 1-800-277-4247. Don't do what Art and I did -- we ordered our copies directly from Germany. Order placed in May and (finally) received in September. Apparently, the guy in the mail room sat on the order for a few months until 'caught.' The fine folks at the ESO then used DHL to air ship the 'lost' order. Perhaps I should mention that the NASA Special Publications are also something of a nightmare to obtain. The lady (and I'm using the term loosely) I spoke with at the Government Printing Office couldn't have cared less about being helpful but did give me a phone number to try. After a dozen phone call to different agencies ("For information on Social Security checks, please press 1 .... for all other questions, please press 15 or hold ... the call will be answered in the order it was received. Approximate wait time is less than 10 minutes.") I finally connected with a lady in the Aeronautical and Technical Publications division that knew exactly what I was looking for. Anyway, the ISBN number for the ESO Atlas Part 1 (all the cool pictures) or the Part 2 (catalogue) is 3-923524-41-2. Dave Riddle ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Save 75% on Products! Find incredible deals on overstocked items with Free shipping! http://click.egroups.com/1/4013/2/_/17451/_/958778272/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message is from the AmAstro mailing list. To post, send mail to amastro@.... To unsubscribe, send a blank e-mail to amastro-unsubscribe@.... |
I know there was a supplement issued in 1996/97 which was a sort of pre-print job.It was only available in dead tree form as far as I know. I am not aware of any updates. I have e-mailed Francois Oschenbein at ESO to see what he says. Will let the group know the answer. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text At 19:15 19/05/2000 -0500, you wrote:
While on the matter of PNe books, the Strausborg-ESO set of books may still
be available for the hard-core PNe enthusiast. Probably best ordered in the
US through the International Book Import Service (IBIS) @ 1-800-277-4247. Yeah, or if you're really cheap (like me), you could just download the entire beast using CDS, Vizie-R, etc. and print it out ;-) I did this about 5 years ago, and I've never looked back. I even used it just two weeks ago at TSP (I got to knock out a few wonderful southern -- as in -51 degrees -- objects with Kent Wallace). Sure, it looks like crap, but there's enough hand-written notes on that copy to probably do a reasonable "field guide" to the ESO-CGPN '92! Now there's a project and a half, huh? Well, maybe if I win the lottery... BTW, has anyone heard further info regarding the new edition of the ESO-CGPN? It was certainly rumored some time ago that there was an updated version being worked on by Agnus Acker's group that was looking at a 1999/2000 release date. Supposedly, extensive deep surveys of the southern hemisphere had assisted in bringing the number of galactic PNe to well over 2000! Jay McNeil "Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds!!!" ~Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 72% off on Name brand Watches! Come and buy today and get free shipping! http://click.egroups.com/1/4011/2/_/17451/_/958780923/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message is from the AmAstro mailing list. To post, send mail to amastro@.... To unsubscribe, send a blank e-mail to amastro-unsubscribe@....
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